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Frequently Asked Questions NOTE: We have a great selection of short videos documenting everything from installing the Carb Adapters to converting your Distributor and even installing and setting up the Throttle Position Sensor.......along with running fuel line, positioning the various components, doing a data log etc..... there are many videos (with more being added as needed) which should answer most of your installation questions. Watch the videos, read through the FAQs below and the all the installation tips under the installation link...........if you can't find your answer feel free to drop me an email.
What performance
improvements will I see?
Will my fuel economy be impacted?
How dependable is this upgrade? Can I buy components to build my own system? Are parts readily available? How long does it take to get the kit? What wiring modifications are needed?
I am not a mechanic, can I do it myself?
Can a triple ZS carb setup be converted to TBI? Will your TPS driver fit up ok with the round shaft end on the SU Carb? My carbs are old and in need of rebuilding. How sensitive is your TBI solution to leaks in the throttle shaft seals? Do the the mounting holes on
your HS6 adaptor plate align to the three bolt pattern on the HD6 carbs? What purpose do the carbs have after this installation other then to house the injectors? Do the bowls still fill with fuel that's regulated by the floats shutting off the needle valve?
What modifications are made to the SU carb dome? Is there a hole/slot needed to run the wires? Can it be installed without altering the carb domes? You have 3 options:
If I send you my carbs will you do the conversion for me? It's not necessary to remove your carbs and send them to me as installing the adapters is very easy as shown in this video.
Can I use my Pertronix or Crane ignition system? The best option, if available for your vehicle, is to use the Patton Machine conversion for Lucas distributors which will allow the onboard computer to have complete control over ignition mapping. Alternatively, you can use any ignition system that produces a square wave to fire the coil, but you will need to use our Tach Filter to provide timing pulses to the on board computer. Use of the Tach filter and your ignition system does not allow for computer controlled ignition mapping. Some systems suitable for use with a Tach Filter are: Pertronix, Crane and 123. If you have any doubt about compatibility, please ask. The Tach Filter will not work with points. Can I reprogram it myself? Your system will arrive preprogrammed and the experts
at Affordable Fuel Injection will help fine tune it to your car and your
driving style. The kit price includes their support and up to three
tuning chips. I would be surprised if it took more than one try to hit
the mark for optimum performance. Should you at some point make
significant changes to your car and have used up the three included
chips, AFI will still work with you however there will be a charge for
their efforts. What if I have a modified engine? Where does the ECM computer mount? How do you get WinALDL to work in Vista? WINALDL will only save files into the WINALDL programs folder and VISTA won't let any program save files to a folder other than Documents folder. So to get around this issue we have to install WINALDL into the documents folder. This site has an excellent tutorial for setting up WinALDL in Vista. Do you provide for datalogging? Why isn't WinALDL showing any data being logged? If WinALDL is logging any data or is logging suspect data, please check the following in the WinALDL configuration: ECM Model#, Com Port and Baud Rate which must be set to 4800. You should also check your cable connections and review the video on setting up WinALDL. What type of injector is used? Can Bosch Multiport Injectors (MPI) be used? No......MPI injectors will not fit the carb adapters that I produce. The TBI Adapters and TBI Kit that I supply IS NOT compatible with MPI injectors or a multi-port installation. What is BLM? Initially to keep the cost of the TR6 kit down and keep things simple we did not use an Idle Air Control Motor. Instead the original choke cables are used for fast idle warm up as the fast idle cams are still functional. That still works well and may not even be required in warm weather. If you run air conditioning or an automatic transmission an IAC circuit is required to prevent stalling. On recent systems it is recommended to add the optional IAC circuit when possible. It does offer automatic fast idle at warm up, has stall prevention, and follows the throttle on acceleration. Pricing for this option is on the Order and Pricing page TBI-Pricing.htmDoes it work with a Turbo
or Supercharger? Do I need a swirl pot? Yes you will need to install one of the following coils which hare suitable for use with this conversion:
Can I send you my distributor for conversion? Please review these two video to see how easy it is to convert the distributor to electronic. If after reviewing it you still have concerns, let me know and we can discuss the alternatives.
What type of hose is in the kit? Hose is not included in the kit and must be sourced locally. TBI systems such as this run at a relatively low pressure. The fuel pump puts out a maximum of 60 psi however the regulator reduces that to 15 psi. May 2009: As a result of increased levels of alcohol in gasoline, new types of alcohol compliant fuel hoses, considered “Green” as in environmentally friendly, are coming to market. One of these “Green” hoses is offered by Gates Corp and is their Barricade series (it is still black in color). Standard fuel hose can be porous to the alcohol in the gas and often hardens the hose over time. Depending on where you live, alcohol concentrations and formulas may vary. Most hose classified as “Fuel Injection” are alcohol resistant. You can also run steel or copper-aluminum fuel lines. Do I need any special tools? What is in the kit? Can the process be reversed? How long does it take to install? Can it be installed in stages? Does the return line connect to the gas tank
and is it required? What size hose off the manifold is needed for the connection with the map sensor? Besides the Oxygen sensor welding, what other modifications are needed? Are any special tools required? Optional tools are a digital voltmeter and a GM style OBD-1 code reader (cheap on ebay). You will need access to a laptop computer to verify sensor readings, gather trouble codes, and finally create a data log. I'm installing the TPS and I can't get it to read correctly. Start by reviewing all five (5) videos dedicated to installing the TPS and if you still cannot get it read correctly, chances are you've over-rotated the sensor beyond its range and it has been internally damaged. A new sensor will be required. Can the black wires in the TBI harness be connected to the negative post on the battery? NO......these are signal wires and must be connected directly to the engine block. The wire harness is too long/short.....can I modify it? The harnesses are intentionally on the long side to accommodate Does the kit include a Check Engine Light? The kit includes a generic round light which may require the drilling of a hole in the location of your choice for installation. Another option is to purchase a Check Engine light from K-Four which will fit one of the existing holes in your dash.
What fittings come with the regulator? I provide an assortment of fittings that should work for most people. Additional fittings can be bought at most hardware, auto or home improvement stores. What are the port thread sizes? The five (5) fittings in the red body section are all 3/8" NPT while the one fitting in the black body section is 5/32" NPT. The fitting on the bottom of the red section CAN ONLY be used for the return line to the gas tank. The other four fittings around the mid-line of the red section can be used for input from fuel pump, output to injectors and pressure gauge. Use them in whatever way fits your installation best. The fitting in the black section of the regulator CAN ONLY be used as the vent/overflow line in case of a regulator failure. How do I seal the fittings so they don't leak? Use a Teflon based pipe sealant approved for gasoline on the threads of the fittings. Can I use the fitting on the very bottom for anything other then the return line? NO......that port CAN ONLY be used for the return line to the gas tank. Can I remotely mount the pressure gauge in the car? NO....the pressure gauge MUST BE mounted directly to the regulator. Does the regulator have to be mounted in a vertical position? The regulator can be mounted in any position that best meets your installation. Is there any distance limitations regarding mounting location? The only limitation is with the fuel lines being connected to the injectors. Those lines should not exceed 3 feet in length. What do I connect the overflow/vent fitting to? This fitting does not connect to anything. Just run a hose from it so that any gas overflow would run to the ground. It's unlikely that this will ever occur and it's provided as an overflow safety release point. What do I adjust the pressure to? Most installations perform better with the fuel pressure set to 14 PSI. New installations should be set at 15 to 16 PSI. Clockwise increases pressure and counter clockwise decreases pressure. Do a complete turn at a time and then check it and adjust accordingly. Why does the regulator show pulsating fuel pressure and/or why is my fuel pump noisy? In normal operation
the fuel pump will only run a few seconds when the key is first turned
on or if the starter is engaged but the fuel pump runs continuously
whenever the engine runs. Fuel pressure should be set to between 15 and
16 PSI. When the engine shuts off it will take a few minutes for the
fuel pressure to bleed off completely.
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